Heroes was the part of Legend World I was most excited for. I know they started with the knights of Arthurian lore, but just think of all the different heroes they could make from other myths and tales. Heracles. Sun Wukong. Susanoo. Mulan. Endless possibilities...but then I saw the art and I stopped caring. Gawain, what the hell happened to your face?
Hero as an archetype takes a bit after Adventurers from Dungeon World with link attack bonuses galore. However, what makes them different is a vastly different resource engine and spell selection. While Adventurers could tutor for days, Heroes rely heavily on a strong weapon lineup along with tons of gauge to pull off some ridiculous plays.
All hero decks MUST be sleeved with Saber sleeves.
Dumbledore |
Do remember that the cards go to the bottom of your deck, so if you don't have a reshuffler expect to never see those cards again and plan accordingly. Additionally, you should try to make sure Merlin has enough targets to actually plus as much as possible. Also, since Merlin will only get items and spells, make sure you use Incubus Blood with your excess weapons and try not to sacrifice monsters for it.
I really do look like a girl |
Ugly Gawain might be even better than Arthur in terms of pure offensive advantage. He comes out at a rather standard 4000/2/1000, but he gets Penetrate (+1) if he link attacks (-1). Don't be fooled by the seeming situational wash, because Gawain is most definitely a plus. Why? One word: Prydwen.
Knight of Godly Speed |
Quick note: Arthur, Gawain, and Galahad all have [Auto] abilities that trigger on link-attack. Said abilities will always create a stack that can be Countered and will not allow you to critically Breathen Gard for pain.
Because Prydwen is broken. Look at that shield. Look at that attribute. Yes, this shield is a freaking Hero. Literally. You can use its Counter Equipment Change once a turn to gain a standing item that you can attack with. Or more importantly, link attack with. Prydwen adds no additional damage or utility, but is able to proc every single link attack bonus for free, essentially. You lose nothing from Counter equipping Prydwen as long as you activate Equipment Change. Due to the fact that Equipment Change is limited to once per turn, you're likely only to pull this combo off once every few turns (since you probably want to equip a real weapon at the beginning of your turn). But this easily allows you to make sure you can activate any link attack bonus without fear of minusing like crazy.
And let's remind everyone once again how math works: the link attack minus calculation is applied once per link attack. So if Arthur and Gawain link attacks, you apply the link attack minus once (-1). Then Arthur's plus (+1.5), followed by Gawain's (+1), which means that the entire link attack becomes a +1.5. I think some people were confused when I introduced this with Adventurers, so I'm covering my bases here.
Heroes also have a great 2-crit Size 1 Mover. Wonderful. I'm really going to have to make a decklist for this archetype.
Bigger for reasons |
However, though the weapon is just so good, Excalibur is probably the most vulnerable aspect of a Hero deck. Unlike Durandal which can't be destroyed ever, Excalibur is prey to the most basic threats against weapons, from Demongodol Ark to Guillotine Cutter. When you switch to Excalibur, you need to make sure that your ass is covered and that it won't come back to bite you. And make sure there's ways for you to recover from losing Excalibur, if that dire circumstance ever arises.
But can you seriously believe that a weapon like that costs no gauge?
I also drive a panther |
We've recently got two PR Valkyries to buff the Hero lineup up. The first is Salvation Eir, a 6000/2/4000 Size 2 that pays 2 gauge to call out a Size 1 from your drop. Pretty standard 2 gauge for 1 card trade, your likely targets are the Mover and Beowulf. Really good in Legend World because Zlatarog makes gauge easy. The second one, Brilliant Brynhildr, is even better. Pay 1 gauge for top-soulcharge and Move on a 5000/2/3000 body (remember the errata). Mathematically, the card is fair but I'd rather have those keywords Move and Soulguard than 4000 distributed stats. With another great Move option, Heroes can start to look more like Armordragons and not have to rely solely on link attacks to accrue advantage, instead focusing on how to maximize their beatstick with each separate attack.
Man, if Beowulf weren't a thing I would say this card is fantastic. But Beowulf is, and you're strapped on Size 2 space, so Siegfried is unfortunately sidelined most of the time. Beowulf deals with drags better and Brynhildr is a better Move recipient...although siding Siegfried is a great idea so that you can just pop him in versus any Dragon build and just watch your opponent completely lose under the triple anti-Dragon threat.
My sword is so sad |
The main thing that Heroes specifically get that makes their game a lot more interesting is Mabinogion. Once per turn, when you link attack, Mabinogion grants a card draw. If you can activate Mabinogion two turns, you basically used a Defeat Monsters! Since link attacking with Prydwen procs link attack effects, you can base a deck around changing Prydwen into Prydwen and activating as many bonuses as possible each turn.
Smells like Fate |
Whoa whoa whoaaaa there! A Fleeting Dream is possibly the best thing Heros could have ever wanted. Advantage out the door, really. But the best thing is in the fine text. Do you see what is required to proc the effect? A Size 2 or greater monster. Not Hero. You search the Hero monster. But you can call anything (say, a Zlatarog) and get a Hero. Yup, that's right. It works perfectly with Zlatarog. The synergy. And since it's a Size 1 or lower monster, you can call something like Oberon and grab something like...well, actually, the only Size 0 target currently is Alwidol. Huh.
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Quick note: Arthur, Gawain, and Galahad all have [Auto] abilities that trigger on link-attack. Said abilities will always create a stack that can be Countered and will not allow you to critically Breathen Gard for pain.
ReplyDeleteDo you have official source which states this? I disagree with this, and I think this kinda creates confusion...
Are you saying that if I link attack with Arthur and Gawain on Center monster, then opponent cast Dragoenergy, I can't Breathern Gard it?
The difference:
DeleteLink attack with Arthur and Gawain. Opponent casts a counter in response to the attack. I can respond with Breathen Gard to negate the spell.
Link attack with Arthur and Gawain. Opponent casts a counter in response to Arthur or Gawain's Penetrate-gaining ability. I cannot respond with Breathen Gard to negate the spell.
I disagreed with this too until Bushiroad clarified through emails that this is indeed the case. You can check their detailed rules chart (or mine, or both) and piece it together (see Auto-abilities along with steps of battle).
Ah I see what you mean now, maybe clarify what you mean further in the blog, as I think it can be interpreted both ways as is.
DeleteAnyway, I don't think you create a stack on auto ability. as it's all happen at the same timing. say, if you say that it create a stack, then only 1 auto can happen during this timing due to the ruling. but in this case, both arthur and gawain's skill happen at the same time. and since all you did was declaring link atk without using any ability, you can still use a counter if your opponent counter your link atk declaration.
act skill on the other hand, counts towards the stack.
All Auto abilities create a stack, and in this case the stack happens during battle step. It goes like this: Link attack with Gawain and Arthur. Both Gawain and Arthur's skills go on the stack. Choose Gawain's skill first (mandatory). Opponent gets a chance to use a Counter (this is uncounterable). Resolve the Counter, if any. Then resolve Gawain's skill. Gawain gains Penetrate.
DeleteAll those things happen in order for Gawain to get Penetrate. The same goes for Arthur. This is consistent for every on-attack ability like this.
No offense mate, but it sounds illogical. hope you have a source saying this, not just a self-made conclusion. I suggest (humbly) to take it out from your site, as it may create confusion among the already confused community.
DeleteAct skill is done one at a time, auto skills happen at the same time. saying both Gawain and Arthur go on the stack means the turn player already create 2 stacks which is illegal (and that's in the rulebook).
Ah, I see. I'm sorry for using confusing terminology, because I think you're getting stacks and chains mixed up. I'm actually talking about stand-by (stacking) and resolving (chains).
DeleteSo in the case of the example, both Gawain and Arthur's skills go on STAND BY. You must resolve all stand by skills, so you resolve Gawain's first. When resolving Gawain's skill, your opponent gets a chance to use a Counter. Since he is CHAINING this Counter to the resolution of your Auto ability, you cannot respond to it with another Counter as this CHAIN is maxed out already. After resolving your opponent's Counter (if there was one), resolve Gawain's skill. Gawain gains Penetrate.
I hope this clears things up. Once you've been in TCGs as long as I am, "stand by", "stack", "chain" and all those terms just mix together and you end up relying too much on context to communicate. I'll be sure to be clear the next time.